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Recall Cone of Silence
Here's an up to the minute update on the effort to recall Gov. Rick Snyder.
There is no update.
The good folks running this thing have clamped a cone of silence on the effort.
"We're doing very well," is the only comment one of the organizers would volunteer when asked how many signatures had been collected.
Does that mean they have ten thousand names or ten?
They ain't saying.
Now the cynic might conclude, they obviously won't release the number because it is so pitiful. To reveal it would indicate that the recall effort is deader than a door nail and that would erase any hope of gathering one million names by August 5th.
You read that correctly. The recallers need about 10,000 names everyday in order to reach that objective and while they deserve credit for acting on their beliefs that the gov. should go, the reality is, it would be a miracle if they got the names to force a statewide vote in November.
The "committee" as Tim Kramer of Oakland County describes it, has a different reason for sitting on the number: Security and they want to get it right or as one web site put it, "We would rather be 100% accurate in our assessment than misrepresenting the current standing."
It is true that during the ill-fated recall of one Gov. John Engler, those organizers hyped the media with glowing reports of hundreds of thousands of names and with no way to check it, the media reported same. Ah, but alas the number was far less.
It is pretty clear that these organizers are passionate and at one web location, a writer tried to prove it by saying, "This is not some girl cookie sale (apparently leaving out the word scout), we are serious, covering all our bases and intend to take back our state from Engler, Snyder and maybe Dick Cheney." (Not sure how Cheney got into this mess?)
While they steadfastly refuse to provide an update, the web sight does reveal they have a goal of $250,000 and to date, they've raised about $14,000.
You can pretty much figure out where this thing is headed with or without the release of any numbers.
posted by Tim Skubick at
4:08 PM
12 Comments:
There's no way to know with any degree of certainty how many signatures have been collected. It's better to say nothing at all.
As one of the organizers of the recall I can say that we wouldn't share our numbers with a "reporter" like you who has shown a clear and consistent bias against our efforts from the very beginning.
We don't need $250,000. Remember we're lazy state workers and teachers with 3 months to do nothing but collect signatures and it's fun and free.
Ah, Tim... I really used to like your show "Off the Record", but with a blog so biased against us on the recall effort, it makes me glad I got rid of my TV.
Tim. Do not be afraid of us. Join us. We believe in democracy - where we can vote for a governor who represents all of the citizens of Michigan - not just the corporations or the very wealthy. If the citizens of Michigan are not represented fairly, we can vote for a new governor in 6 years, or recall her/him after 6 months if they do serious damage in a short amount of time, like replace elected officials with emergency financial managers who can sell of public beaches, rest stops, etc. The more Governor Snyder takes away from senior citizens, working people, students, and the poor, the more people will rise up to change his policies or him. Go ahead and make fun of this recall. Being against democracy must benefit you.
Tim, I am sorry that you are angry that we did not grant you an Interview.
I told you the reasons why.I know you said you would be fair, but we will conduct interviews on our terms. I will say that we have State wide support from all walks of life in this recall. As far as the $250K is concerned that is just a number. We have more than enough petitions in circulation without reaching that amount of money. Now it is upon the people to take our GREAT STATE back! This Snyder recall and the EFM recall are a great starting point.
I've got a nice crisp $100 bill for anyone who'll bet me that this recall effort is going to die a dog's death. The bitter responses from the whining little bitches on the recall side of the fence tell me all I need to know.
Thanks Mr. Skubick.. you've helped to confirm that this recall effort is going nowhere fast. I've asked for numbers of signatures from our local county people and am met with blank stares. I've even tried to make some bets with friends who are all for the recall that they won't even get 1/2 of the needed signatures... so far, no one will take the bet.
I'll be chuckling in early August when the numbers are finally announced and they are pitifully low.
Go SNYDER GO!!!
Thanks for sharing the story. Now it's up to $15,000. Keep writing.
Just returned from the local Farmers Market... Two old women have a 'Recall Snyder' table set up off to the side. Those poor old gals sure looked lonely...
As a supporter of the recall, I believe the numbers should be disclosed. The best evidence is that refusing to disclose numbers suppresses signature gathering. Disclosing numbers mobilizes and energizes volunteers. It dramatically multiplies the rate of signature gathering. This weeks' evidence from Ohio is compelling.
In Ohio, the announcements of the numbers of signatures gathered were followed by dramatic increases in the rates of signatures gathering. The rate increased from 7,657 signatures per day to 41,726 signatures per day in final weeks.
Look at the increase in the daily rate and weekly rate after each announcement.
We are Ohio http://www.weareohio.com
Press Releases http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases.html
May 20 Press Release http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases/PR_052011.html
"We are pleased to report 214,399 signatures have been collected in the first month,"
May 31 Press Release http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases/PR_053111.html
"In just one month, We Are Ohio collected 214,399 total signatures."
June 17 Press Release http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases/PR_061711.html
"Today ,We Are Ohio announced at a press conference on the steps of the Ohio Statehouse that 714,137 total signatures have been collected in just two months.
June 17 Video http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/VideosPhotos.html
June 29 Press Release http://www.weareohio.com/MediaCenter/PressReleases/PR_062911.html
"1,298,301 signatures "
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April 22 to May 20 - collected 214,399 signatures in 28 days for daily rate = 7657 signatures per day = weekly rate of 53,599 signatures
May 21 to June 17 - Additional 499,738 signatures in 28 days for a daily rate = 17,847 signatures per day = weekly rate of 124,934
as of June 17 the total signatures is 714,137 signatures
June 18 to June 29 - Additional 584164 signatures in 14 days for a daily rate = 41,726 signatures per day = weekly rate of 292,082 signatures
as of June 29 the total signatures is 1,298,301 signatures
I am asking my good friends in the recall effort to reconsider their conclusions in light of this week's compelling evidence from Ohio.
Hey lookey! Here we are less than a month later... Kramer's out of a job, and the Recall Rick/MEA crew is as close to throwing in the towel as you can get. Guess that $25k doesn't cut it, huh? Looks like Skoop was on the money, and poor Tim was just blowing smoke.
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